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They took off, flew out somewhere to do a bunch of maneuvers, were flying back some distance, got close to home, decided to try a slow roll, smurfed it, augered it straight into the mud. According to the airplane broker, on the day of the accident the private pilot called to report that he had just completed a 1-hour flight in the accident airplane to satisfy the insurance policy requirements. Rock Palermo and Don Clements were killed in the crash, Johnson said. a practice stall , with a forward C of G ? Hes the guy who trains everybody to do what we do. The plane took off again about 5:13 p.m. and crashed about a half-hour later. 1 LSU's big win over Butler. Take notice how he said it: "I found it and it's still there." Forward CG would make the scenario begin as you describe, but airspeed increase in a dive from 4500 restores elevator authority with plenty of altitude remaining. ------------------------------------------------------------Stay in touch with us anytime, anywhere. The youtube guy's 3rd dramatic video came out but has no photo or any mention about the missing blade. Theyre very easy to fly and one of the reasons a lot of people choose to fly them is because theyre so safe, said Thompson, describing such arcraft. 1 LSU's big win over Butler. Copyright 2021 KPLC. Sept. 14, 2014 10:37 PM PT. It would recover immediately with added power.I won't go so far as to say he's nailed it as to the cause of this crash, but at least he's not off on some crazy idea. Another owner of the plane flew with Clements and Palermo the day before the accident and didnt report anything of concern. Dr. Kevin Dupke, the Cameron Parish coroner, said he was at the crash site Wednesday with federal investigators and could not confirm the second mans name. whatever you told him to study, he studied it. The plane impacted soft, muddy ground near Hackberry, causing a crater that extended 15 feet deep and covering the majority of the plane. Hard to think of anything that makes sense here. In the end, because of the extensive damage it was ruled that it will ultimately remain a mystery on why or how the aircraft lost control. ADVERTISEMENT. A Navy fighter pilot presumed dead after two jets crashed Friday over the Pacific Ocean was identified Sunday as Lt. Nathan Poloski of Lake Arrowhead . I watched all three episodes of Utube guy, and I still dont really know what his theory really was. The report did say that one of the propeller blades was not recovered. He served as secretary of the board of the Lake Charles Regional Airport Authority. Honorary Pallbearers are William Don Clements, William Edward Shaddock, Jr., Stephen Gorham Shaddock, William Edward Shaddock II MD, Brian Ray Jones and William Craig Jones. Rock Palermo and Don Clements were killed in the crash, Johnson said. You made some very astute observations focused on elevator issues, compounded by the possible loss of a blade. Hes just one of those people you cant replace.. Plane nosedived 15 feet into the ground, according to NTSB report on Hackberry plane crash. I try to plot out the ADSB data listed above in my head, and that seems to be how they crashed. lol) to give me the answer. The third blade was recovered at the crash site, just not by the "NTSB" Who ever recovered the airplane did not do a thorough enough job. Rock touched many, many people and this is about as tough a loss as you can get for this office and this community, Mancuso said. It would seem the elevator itself could be jammed instead. Providence Sacred Heart Medical Center confirmed that 61-year-old Michael Clements died Tuesday. Two of the propeller blades remained attached to the propeller hub and one blade was not recovered. Authorities first got a call around 5:47 p.m. Tuesday of a plane flying low, then disappearing, Johnsons said. It's their job to travel to accident sites to determine the cause. BATON ROUGE - A man arrested for running Friday PM Forecast: starting weekend cooler then trending warmer. The report did not identify any witnesses by name. Don was a member of the Krewe of Contraband. Because of this, some have theorized that a propeller failure is to blame for this accident.Losing a blade in flight, with the 3-blade, constant speed propeller rotating at 2400-2500 rpm would likely cause a vibration so violent, it could easily render the pilots unconscious and/or damage the airframe/elevator so severely that the airplane would not be controllable.If only we could go through the maintenance records and see when the constant speed propeller was last serviced or overhauled.I'm sure the NTSB will figure it out, but we'll just have to wait. Im still waiting on the full report from N8991W. This one is just tough.". Don Clement's will be having a visitation from 12 p.m. to 3 p.m. on Saturday . I had a nearly half-scale Spacewalker that weighed only 25 pounds. Rock Palermo and Don Clements were killed Tuesday night when the small plane they were in crashed in Cameron Parish. I'm left wondering what lessons can I take away from this one to keep it from happening to me when I fly? Email notifications are only sent once a day, and only if there are new matching items. All rights reserved. At the time of his death, Don was a partner in the Global Asset Management Group (Raymond James) in Lake Charles, LA. Then the day of the accident, Clements completed a one-hour flight around 2:30 p.m. in the plane as an insurance policy requirement without any complications. Think about the circumstances that would fit with acceptance of not finding the missing blade.Examination of the recovered prop hub must have clearly indicated that the blade was thrown during flight, not broken out during impact. Cameron Sheriff: Two bodies recovered from plane crash near Hackberry, LSU WR Malik Nabers arrested in New Orleans; prosecutors refuse to charge with condition, Road closed following fire at Entergy substation, Charges upgraded for suspect arrested in deadly shooting, police say, Health experts, former athletes respond to NCAAs proposal to reduce game time and plays. He stated that the private pilot completed the flight maneuvers well and he did not notice anything of concern. A Federal Aviation Administration crew out of Baton Rouge and a National Transportation Safety Board team out of Dallas are to investigate the crash, KPLC-TV reported. No matter how much his soul hates the NTSB, only a cruel ghoul would leave the wreck site without making sure the blade got into hands-on possession of the local FSDO. There was a small plane crash near Hackberry, LA on Tuesday, February 2, 2021. Watch the 2 Your Health report for Thursday, Watch the 2 Your Health report for Tuesday, Crawfish Tracker: Signs of life (and price drops). BATON ROUGE, La. It may have required tools to get it out of the ground. Louisianaauthoritieshad identified the pilot earlier as Richard Don Clements and his instructor as Rock Palermo. The Pulaski County, Arkansas, Sheriff's Office confirmed it had responded at about noon local time. Cameron Sheriff: Two bodies recovered from plane crash near Hackberry, Shreveport man arrested for allegedly tattooing children, 2 suspects arrested in McCurtain County arson-homicide investigation, Assessing Shreveport damage after the storm, Remembering Devin Myers one year after his death, Laundry mat, gas station damaged after storms. (KPLC) - Two bodies have been recovered from the wreckage of a plane that went down near Hackberry Tuesday, Cameron Sheriff Don Johnson said. Later 182's do not.https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2020/11/02/2020-24046/airworthiness-directives-textron-aviation-inc-airplanes. Distance From: 4,325 feet @ 29.9898 -93.3416 Distance To: Wreckage and Impact Information Latitude, Longitude: 30.009412,-93.330048 (est)Calculated Distance Straight line distance: 1.28 miles , 2.07 kilometers (km) , 6785 feet , 2068 meters. Hes just one of those people you cant replace.. JohnsontoldKPLC-TV that the second occupant, Richard Don Clements, was believed to be a student of Palermos. Dive overspeed certainly could toss the blade. Youll never convince me other than it was a catastrophic failure of the aircraft because Rock knew exactly what to do, said Thompson. There was a problem saving your notification. Port Allen Pelicans basketball team soaring toward fourth-straight state title, Sample duo leading Scotlandville into playoffs, For help accessing the WBRZ-TV Public File, contact: Joey Verrett at, LSU gymnastics club meet brings tourists to downtown Baton Rouge. Rock Palermo and Don Clements were killed Tuesday night when the small plane they were in crashed in Cameron Parish. By Lauren Raab. His most cherished hobby, passed on by his father, was flying. The plane took off again about 5:13 p.m. and crashed about a half-hour later. The report said two of the propellers three blades were on the hub at the nose of the plane, but the third was not found. Plane was owned by an aviation company in Sulfur. In the N3RB accident, the tuber wrongly asserted that the pilot murdered a co-pilot.Unfortunately, those enthusiastic followers who ignore the tuber's established pattern of false claims and obvious click baiting don't care about defined NTSB/FAA roles or delegation.The biggest tell of the whole charade is exploitation of the accident victim's loved ones. Don Clements will be having a visitation from 12 p.m. to 3 p.m. on Saturday, February 6, and funeral at 3 p.m. Click here to see Calcasieu Parish Sheriff Tony Mancuso and District Attorney Stephen Dwight speak about what it was like to know Rock Palermo. Observation Facility, Elevation: KLCH,9 ft msl, Distance from Accident Site: 9 Nautical Miles, Wind Speed/Gusts, Direction: 4 knots / , 200, Latitude, Longitude: 30.009412,-93.330048 (est). He kept me composed. Kerbow was an instructor for Clements, who was a newly licensed pilot. You can be sure that he did NOT find the blade, because he says he left it there. They are certain of Palermos ability to handle any emergency. The airplane impacted soft ground on an island about 1.5 nautical miles northeast of Hackberry. On Wednesday, Calcasieu Parish Sheriff Tony Mancusos voice broke as he told reporters that one victim, Rock Palermo, was the departments pilot, attorney and friend. Either the pilots made no control input to the elevator or it was mechanically disconnected or impeded.There is a remote possibility that a thru-bolt vibrated out of a connection near the yoke and forward elevator bellcrank, having spun off it's castellated nut due to a omitted cotter pin.What source of vibration could suddenly finish shaking loose an unsecured control connection as they recovered from a practice stall? BATON ROUGE - Friday, the LSU Tigers participated in the Podium Challenge, a gymnastics club meet featuring teams from California, Washington and George Washington Universities. They both observed the bottom of the airplane and did not notice any rotational movement. Stony Plain pilot Michael Clements has died following a plane crash in Spokane, Washington, reports a . An obituary for Rock Palermo can be found HERE. Fatal flight: full fuel and two heavy guys in the front. with Cameron Sheriff Don Johnson, KPLC reports that Johnson said the bodies are believed to be Rock Palermo and Richard . The plane, a single-engine Cessna 182 four-seater, crashed on a small island between Hackberry and Big Lake, near Pete Seay Circle. The NTSB also declared that the plane's crash was the result of "extensive internal failure of the inboard left engine" during . Authorities first got a call around 5:47 p.m. Tuesday of a plane flying low, then disappearing, Johnsons said. There is a long standing agreement between the NTSB and the FAA that the NTSB, because of being short-staffed, has the official authority and do relegate most general aviation accidents solely to the FAA. They say Palermo sometimes helped out at their school, Plane Simple Flight School. SPOKANE, Wash. (AP) The Canadian pilot of a small plane that crashed Sunday in Spokane has died. The 182Q N4765N accident aircraft does not have the tailcone design that the AD applies to. Clements, 61, was flying alone from Alberta, Canada, to California on Feb. 22, 2015. Calcasieu Sheriff Tony Mancuso got emotional while speaking Wednesday morning at a news conference. Shortly after stopping at Felts Field to refuel, his Piper Malibu Mirage crashed north of East Sprague. We appreciate everyone's prayers Clements was a financial planner with Global Asset Management. The NTSB report outlines the final moments the craft was in flight. Barbe High orchestra plays at Lake Charles Airport, Lake Charles residents concerned about cracked pavement. The bodies were identified as Rock Palermo and Richard Don Clements, Mancuso said in a news conference. CG was okay. Two bodies were recovered from the wreckage. FAA training on proper inspection practices details a disconnected C182 "up" elevator control connection true life incident in this document:https://www.faasafety.gov/files/gslac/courses/content/37/561/ffp.htm. The Veron Bice family is saddened by the loss of our founding partner, Rock Palermo. yeah these are the crashes that really bother me --the unknown cause ones .That's when I consider --should I really be flying planes ? Copyright 2022 KPLC. NTSB releases report on deadly plane crash that killed Rock Palermo, Don Clements, Barbe High orchestra plays at Lake Charles Airport, Lake Charles residents concerned about cracked pavement. According to the How do I know if I have a cold, the flu or COVID-19? quote: Was a 1979 Cessna 182 N4765N. One of his proudest moments was in 2016 when he presented his daughter, Mary Kathryn as the Princess Music of Lincoln Center. NTSB, do your job. The wreckage was recovered to a secure storage facility where an engine and airframe examination was completed under the supervision of a Federal Aviation Administration inspector. Palermo was an instructor on the flight and Clements was a student. BATON ROUGE, La. Don was honored in 2015 as a Duke by the Krewe of Mystique for the many contributions he made to the community. The grieving families need the analysis to be done on that blade. Based solely on the description of the situation, sounds to me like they decided to try to do a slow roll and screwed it up. (KPLC) - Two bodies have been recovered from the wreckage of a plane that went down near Hackberry Tuesday, Cameron Sheriff Don Johnson said. Thrown blade and resulting immediate out of balance could have ripped an engine mount, canted the engine in some way creating horrendous aerodynamics and an unrecoverable dive? 0:47. The FAA is proposing this AD to address the unsafe condition on these products.DATES:The FAA must receive comments on this proposed AD by June 29, 2020. HACKBERRY, La. Copyright 2021 Scripps Media, Inc. All rights reserved. Don't get taken in by the constant criticism of NTSB and FAA efforts. The airplane had high sink rate with a relatively flat attitude (nose close to the horizon). As noted earlier, The airplane reached about 4,500 ft above ground level (agl), as the airspeed decreased.and "recorded ADS-B data distance From: 4,325 feet @ 29.9898 -93.3416 To: Wreckage and Impact Information Latitude, Longitude: 30.009412,-93.330048 (est) has a Calculated Distance Straight line distance of only 1.28 miles"Apparent mechanical failure, or failure in the cabin.. "The crankshaft sheared aft of the propeller flange. No words exist to describe the void that will be left by Rocks absence. They are using COVID as an excuse to be LAZY and not work. (KPLC) - Two bodies have been recovered from the wreckage of a plane that went down near Hackberry Tuesday, Cameron Sheriff Don Johnson said. Investigators said there was so much damage it limited how much they could investigate. Carbon Monoxide poisoning possibly? Cameron Parish and Calcasieu Parish authorities worked throughout the night investigating the crash, but are turning over the investigation to a Federal Aviation Administration crew out of Baton Rouge and a National Transportation Safety Board team out of Dallas. The demonizing of the NTSB over not traveling to this accident included the untruthful claim "I found the missing blade". It gave a number of details about the circumstances of the flight but did not indicate what caused the crash. he always worked hard. Look it up. They consider him a mentor and the best pilot they knew. Im not saying thats what happened, just a theory and my original gut feeling of what might have happened, but it is a theory that seems consistent with the facts. Googled the N number to find the NTSB report and ended up here, Ive never seen this site before, Ive never commented here, So I appologise if my comment is not welcome. Authorities are investigating after a jet from Luke Air Force Base crashed near Buckeye north of the White Tank Mountains on Thursday morning, according to Sean Clements, a . Could forward CG tail stall and slow airspeed be maintained (full aft elevator, lack of elevator authority) all the way to the ground with nose down? Don Clements will be having a visitation from 12 p.m. to 3 p.m. on Saturday, February 6, and funeral at 3 p.m. Click here to see Calcasieu Parish Sheriff Tony Mancuso and District Attorney Stephen Dwight speak about what it was like to know Rock Palermo. That noted, my betting-bux is on 'something else' being 'the root cause' behind this puzzling crash. (KPLC) -The National Transportation Safety Board is investigating the deadly crash that claimed the life of two well known citizens in our area. He and the department announced the death of Rock Palermo who was employed by the sheriff's office. Copyright 2021 KPLC. "HACKBERRY, La. But it is accidents like this that really perplex me and keep me up at night. Wednesday afternoon, a procession was held as Palermo was brought to a Jennings funeral home, click here for more. While at LSU Law School he was selected to the Moot Court Board. Rocks the best pilot I ever met, said Thompson. It gave a number of details about the circumstances of the flight but did not indicate what caused the crash. If so, the wreckage would bear witness to that once the mud is removed. Id say he just wasnt able to retrieve from wherever it was. Palermo and Clements were aboard a plane like this Cessna 182 when they were killed. GREENVILLE, S.C. - No. Flight Track. It would be interesting to see the state of the elevator trim. Other questions:subscriberservices@theadvocate.com. Is it possible that there was carbon monoxide asphyxiation putting both pilots to sleep? He was preceded in death by his father, Joseph R. Palermo, Jr. Rock delighted in all things involving his family. The impact crater is 15 feet deep and wings were crushed aft to the rear wing spar.Can't crush wings rearward like that or crater that deep coming in level. When Don wasnt involved in hunting, fishing, and music, he was at home in his beautiful rose garden and vegetable garden, which he nurtured in order to bring fresh roses and vegetables on a regular basis to his beloved wife, Nancy. Don was the epitome of what a student should be. On Feb. 2, 2021, an aircraft went down, killing both men on board, Rock Palermo and Don Clements. Two witnesses were in close proximity to the accident site, but different locations, stated that they observed the airplane in a rapid descent with the nose pointed at the ground. well the only thing to attempt if it disconnected is nose up elevator trim, if that is working, but if you are pointed straight down, that might not have enough time to work. But a 182Q isn't a 737Max.. couldn't the pilot overcome a stuck trim with elevator input? I have been thinking the same, it's the only thing that makes any sense. The 1972 Puerto Rico DC-7 crash was an aviation accident that occurred on December 31, 1972, in Carolina, Puerto Rico. No responsible person aware of the circumstances would leave it.Ask yourself: Why leave it there? Winds will ease into the evening. Cameron Parish and Calcasieu Parish authorities worked throughout the night investigating the crash and will turn over the investigation to Federal Aviation Administration investigators from Baton Rouge and a National Transportation Safety Board team out of Dallas. An ATP-rated CFI teaching another pilot, good weather, an aircraft known to be fairly reliable and having docile characteristics. The CPSO will be working with family, supporting them. Don graduated with a Bachelor of Science in Accounting from Louisiana Tech University. Another partial owner of the plane told investigators that the pilot had just bought a share of the aircraft and was accumulating flight hours to get rated for complex and high-performance planes, according to the report. He was in the back seat of the airplane the day before when the two accidents pilots were conducting a training flight. The tail plane remained, perhaps, in an out of stall all the way to the ground. Copyright 2021 KPLC. It's really hard to get a C-182 out of CG. Stream LIVE news here. The plane took off at 9 p.m. and the sounds of engine failure were heard as it went down the runway. It is a risk that we accept as we enjoy the thrill of flying. Loss of elevator authority as speed reduced at 4500 feet. Nothing in the report suggests "airplane attitude was flat with nose close to the horizon. 60K views, 69 likes, 95 loves, 363 comments, 164 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from KPLC 7 News: Calcasieu Sheriff holds news conference after deadly plane crash near Hackberry. I never saw more lawsuits against management at this organization that were justified, but those affected did not care because the money they caused the taxpayers to forfeit did not come out of their pockets. This is the type of crash that likely catches LOTS of self-aware pilots' attentionInre your (Winchman's) observation/question noted in the 1st paragraph, writing as a (never-used-for-income) aerospace-engineering-degreed, ~2600-hr glider-only pilot who also 'messed around w. RC gliders', one 'obvious difference' between RC power planes and full-sized ones is what I'll call 'prop-disc-area/mass ratio' differences, with the RC 'ratio' being considerably higher than that for man-carrying (182) equivalents. High speed nose down impact. November 10, 2022. They consider him a mentor and the best pilot they knew. Rock touched many, many people and this is about as tough a loss as you can get for this office and this community, Mancuso said. If they weren't stuck with tunnel vision grip on full aft yoke, they could have pushed forward and added power to get the tail plane flying again and regained control. The Cessna 182 was destroyed when it crashed straight down onto an island northeast of Hackberry in Cameron Parish and sank 15 feet (4.6 meters) down into the soft soil, the NTSB preliminary. The plane crashed near an industrial area a few miles to the south of the Little Rock airport. The Cessna 182 was destroyed when it crashed straight down onto an island northeast of Hackberry in Cameron Parish and sank 15 feet (4.6 meters) down into the soft soil, the NTSB preliminary report said.

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